(317) 308-4991

Calls and **** ups every time. Never talked to anyone.

It said on caller ID he/she was an officer

Called a***n on do not call list & unlisted #

Call a***n for fund raiser what a scam

You can see some of these mutts in action at the link below but be sure to check that site out to find out what is really going on. Lots of good infohttp://www.pfcl.org/Badge_Fraud_Videos.htmlFrom the Muncie , IN paper. the link that linda r put there does not seem to work so here is the text of the articleDecember 5, 2010Donations to Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police enri****g telemarketersThe FOP now has a new telemarketing consultant, but is he any less shady than the previous one?By SETH SLABAUGHThe two telemarketers each owned $2 million New Jersey mansions -- one with panoramic views of the Atlantic Ocean, the other overlooking an English garden -- with distinctive attractions like swimming pools, a master suite with a 1,500-square-foot closet, and a climate-controlled wine cellar.Facing allegations of deceiving consumers, the pair were permanently banned from telemarketing by the Federal Trade Commission and forced to turn over $18.8 million in****ets to the government, including their homes, paintings by Picasso and Van Gogh, guitar and wine collections, three Mercedes and a Bentley.Now the FOP has hired a new telemarketing consultant to run its Muncie call center -- John Keller, from Atlanta, Ga., doing business as Group Consultants Inc. -- who also has a questionable track record.Six months ago, Keller, doing business under a different name, JAK Productions, paid a $300,000 fine to the FTC for violating the Telemarketing Sales Rule.In 2009, the Indiana Troopers****ociation sued JAK, accusing Keller of fraud, unethical practices, theft, deception, racketeering and driving the troopers****ociation into bankruptcy. JAK denied the allegations and counter-sued for defamation of character. The parties continue to battle in U.S. bankruptcy court.Besides managing the FOP's statewide call center in Muncie as a professional fundraising consultant, Keller also solicits telephone donations from Hoosiers on behalf of several out-of-state charities, including some that get an "F" rating or an "exceptionally poor" rating from charity watchdogs.'Annoying'"Telemarketing is less well-regarded today than it used to be for a couple of reasons," said Leslie Lenkowsky, a professor of philanthropy at Indiana University. "One, a lot of people just get annoyed getting called at home. Second, it's pretty costly to raise money with the telephone. You've got to pay all those people (solicitors)."For example, in 2008 Pasch and Keezer, doing business as Civic Development Group (CDG), managed a telephone solicitation campaign for the FOP that raised around $2.7 million. But $2.4 million of that was paid to or retained by CDG, leaving the police with $463,356.Since Keller took over as the FOP's fundraising consultant around June, three dozen consumers have filed "Do-Not-Call" complaints with the Indiana attorney general in connection with the organization's Muncie call center."My home is my sanctuary," said one of the complainants, Kristin Rahn, a Fort Wayne housewife. "I don't like to be bothered."The call is obviously pre-recorded. They wait a second or two before picking up. It seems computer generated. They just launch into their spiel. I usually cut them off early and ask them to please remove my number. The FOP in particular, it seems like their callers seem a little rude, brusque and short. I don't think they are removing names from the Do Not Call list. It seems like I always get called a***n. I have never given to them. I know the telemarketers take the majority of the funds they collect for their own use."All three dozen complaints were dismissed by the attorney general because the FOP, as a nonprofit organization, is exempt from the state's Do Not Call list. In Indiana, non-profits that use their own employees or volunteers to make the calls are exempt. The FOP uses its own paid solicitors to make the calls under Keller's direction.When it receives complaints, the attorney general's office contacts the FOP's attorney and suggests that the FOP remove the number from its calling list, but they are not required to do so.FinedIn June, Keller paid the FTC $300,000 to settle charges that his company "abandoned" millions of calls when consumers answered their phones. The FTC also alleged that Keller made thousands of illegal calls to consumers who had told the company they did not wish to be called.It is not illegal for telemarketers to call numbers on the FTC's Do Not Call Registry, but consumers can stop such calls by telling telemarketers to place their numbers on the charity's internal Do Not Call list. All telemarketers are required to honor those requests.Telemarketers also are required to limit their use of automated "predictive" dialers. Such dialers can place calls so rapidly that there are not enough telemarketer representatives to handle the calls when they are answered. When an automated dialer fails to connect a call answered by a person to a live representative of the telemarketer within two seconds, the call is "abandoned."'F' ratingWhile Keller works as a professional fundraising consultant to the FOP -- which pays him 15 percent of the gross collections solicited by FOP employees -- he is also registered in this state as a professional solicitor for several charities.One of the charities on whose behalf Keller solicits calls to Hoosiers is the Children's Charity Fund in Sarasota, Fla., rated by Charity Navigator as "exceptionally poor" because 87 percent of its expenses go for fundraising, 7 percent for administration and only 6 percent on programs for which the charity was created.In 2008, Sheryl Brown, director of the charity, received a salary of $83,293. Keller and other telemarketing firms raised $1.3 million for the charity that year and kept all but $262,213 of that.Keller also has solicited telephone donations in Indiana for the American ****** Cancer Foundation, a "look-alike" charity that gets an "F" rating from the American Ins***ute of Philanthropy. While the ""A" rated ****** Cancer Research Foundation spent nearly 87 percent of its budget on medical research in 2006, the American ****** Cancer Foundation spent nearly 87 percent of its budget on solicitations that year.Name c****esAccording to the Indiana Troopers****ociation (ITA) lawsuit, Keller in 2005 s****ed using the name in Indiana as Campaign Resources Inc. because of numerous complaints in Indiana and other states about the questionable practices of JAK Productions, one of several names he does business as.In calendar year 2008, ITA says it received only 12 percent of all donations ($2.6 million) on its behalf.The donations, controlled exclusively by Keller, passed to three different vendors -- Mail Sort, in Lawrenceville, Ga.; Southwest Caging Corp., Topeka, Kan., and Mail Boxes, Etc., Indianapolis, before being deposited in the bank.Keller repeatedly refused to provide ITA an accounting of the monies received or the alleged costs and services of the vendors, according to the lawsuit. And in retaliation for questions about his business practices, Keller allegedly caused ITA's computers to crash.Meanwhile, there are some similarities between the way Keller operates and the way Pasch and Keezer operated.Beginning in 2004, Pasch and Keezer began c****ing their contracts to identify themselves as "professional management consultants" instead of "professional fundraisers," in an attempt to evade FTC regulations, the FTC alleged in its lawsuit a***nst the pair.The defendants tried to create the impression that the charities staffed and ran the fundraising campaign without the involvement of any professional fundraiser or middleman -- to suggest that charities receive a larger share of contributions, the lawsuit alleged.In reality, however, Pasch and Keezer ran the campaigns and told donors the charities received 100 percent of donations, the FTC alleged. A**** other alleged violations, the pair selected Financial Processing Services -- headed by Keezer's mother -- to process donations. The mother established commercial mailboxes where donors sent contributions.Keller's contract with the FOP identifies him as a "professional fundraiser consultant."'No difference'Shane Haney managed the FOP call center in Muncie under Pasch and Keezer, and also, briefly, under Keller."I don't see any difference in the way it's run today versus the way it was run in the past," said Haney.When the FOP contracted with Keller this year, Haney raised questions about Keller's dealings with the Indiana Troopers****ociation. After that, Haney got fired."They brought in people who work for John Keller to run the call center," Haney said "He wanted his own people to run it, someone in charge who would do whatever John Keller wants."That person, Justin Reid Lewis, was an employee of Keller's at a call center in West ******ia. Lewis is now call center manager. "He was hired as an FOP employee," Haney said.Tim Downs, president of the FOP, "doesn't want anything to do with the call center," Haney said. "He just lets John Keller run it and lets the money come in. In theory, the FOP is running it, but in reality, John Keller is running it."One of Keller's employees who helps run the call center in Muncie is a former employee of Pasch and Keezer.Telephone scriptThe scripts that callers use at the Muncie call center was developed by Pasch and Keezer. The routine goes so****ing like this:"Hello (prospect's name), this is (solicitor's name). I work directly for the Indiana Fraternal Order of Police . . . I'm going to send a decal out to (prospect's address) to show your great support for the officers. The donations s**** with gold at $45, silver at $35 and bronze at $25. Which one is best for you."The FOP's solicitors do not claim that 100 percent of donations go to the FOP. If asked how much goes to the FOP, the solicitors say so****ing like: "The exact amount the FOP nets is not known until all expenses are determined. The FOP hopes to reduce costs by using employees, not paid fundraisers."The script also tells prospective donors, "The officers want to remind you to buckle up and to remind you and your family not to drink and drive."FOP 'not concerned'Downs, the FOP president, said he was not concerned about Keller's alleged racketeering activities when he was a fundraising consultant to the Indiana Troopers****ociation."At this point, no, I am not concerned," he said. "Our treasurer and our attorney reviews everything we do."The money that the FOP nets from its telemarketing campaign mostly goes to families of officers ****ed in the line of duty, Downs said. "And we do a lot of charitable things for communities, including our youth programs," he said.He also pointed out that the call center employs 70 people, some of whom are college students.Yet he acknowledges that telemarketing isn't the most effective fundraising technique and that is also annoys people."We are under contract (with Keller) and we hope at the end of the contract to revamp our operations and get out of telemarketing," Downs said. "A lot of FOPs are getting away from it, and we are gearing toward doing other things. I think we have two and a half to three years left on our contract."Bottom lineIs all of this to enough to trigger an investigation by the Indiana attorney general, which has broad enforcement powers over non-profits, including the ability to sue to remove officers or directors, or even to dissolve organizations as a last resort?During a non-profit workshop in October, Justin Hazlett, a deputy attorney general, said news reports, complaints, money problems, governance problems, conflict or misconduct trigger such investigations.January Portteus, another deputy attorney general, said during the workshop that remedies available to her office regarding non-profit fundraising in particular were limited to registration violations -- unless solicitations violate the state's deceptive consumer sales act.In an interview, spokeswoman Molly ****ers said the attorney general does not have jurisdiction to intervene in a private contract dispute between Keller and the troopers****ociation. "However, we can investigate to determine if (Keller) violated Indiana's consumer protection laws in the course of a fundraising campaign," she said."If the attorney general has reason to think so****ing fraudulent is under way, they still have to prove it, which is not always easy," said Lenkowsky, the IU philanthropy professor.He advises a***nst giving to any telemarketer. "It's very difficult to exercise due diligence on the phone," he said. Most donors don't know anything about the track records of John Keller, Scott Pasch and David Keezer, he added.

In case you haven't figured it out yet- the State Do Not Call has little teeth and cover very few cir***stanceswhere they will act on your behalf. The Troopers solicitation is legal and is on another campaign much like the one they had two to three years ago. You can be pro-active or you can just get angry and let the phone ring every other day. Very annoying!You can do a couple things -  1) you can get a phone that blocks calls. ( Panasonic makes some )or 2) you can call them and ask them to remove you name from the call list. I spoke with a verypolite woman who obliged and never received another call until this year.

Yeah I did not know it was a scam at first and if you state you will donate then decide not to they will harass the heck out of you!I received numerous calls a day for months and stuff in the mail to send my money in. If you talk to them or try to they get ***** in their tactics to try to obtain that money! I ended up disconnecting my phone and moving (other reasons but..) before the calls etc finally ended.  Beware!

NO CALL LIST EXEMPT??   I answered this call..Mainly thinking I should (DUMB IDEA)...  They say they are a looking for "Donations" for State Police.  The Man also stated that they are EXEMPT from any Do Not Call Lists!  What?    He stated that since they are affiliated with the IN State Police, they are Exempt..

This guy called and said he was with the 'Police Proctive Fund' which I found out is a complete scam. They want to collect money for themselves and NOTHING goes to the fallen officers. He got very rude with me when I questioned how much actually goes to the fallen officers family. SCAM SCAM SCAM.

I received a phone call on February 23, 2011 and today at 12:25p.m., February 24, 2011 from 317-308-4991.  The Caller I.D. shows up in lower case, "policeprotecti

It not the public job to support this. We get life insurance to protect us. FOps need to quit looking for handouts.

Who cares. They jshould not be invading peoples home. It there problem not mine.

This phone number is calling to try to SCAM money for the IN State Police I have NOT called the number, nor will I.  It directs you to a customer service department that can answer questions using****entially manipulative techniques, help you waste your donation on fundraising fees, or anything else related to the FOP getting a small fraction of your donation, 12% to 27% Some fundraiser's pocket as much as 73% to 90% and up. Also, there’s information on www.badgefraud.org on the massive numbers of warnings put out by FOP Lodges that do not use so called professional fundraisers and Real Police and Sheriff and Fire Departments. But you can contact them there with any questions or requests.BadgeFraud (dot) org is doing a lot of really great things for POLICE OFFICERS FAMILIES and the people that post are NOT trying to raise money, they are trying to protect the money of the people who protect us, and that is so****ing very good.

Caller identified himself as being "Derek" from the "Police Protection Fund." I said, "We're not interested," and ***g up.Here's why: The "Police Protection Fund" or "Police Protective Fund" (PPF) is a scam group that gets tax breaks for raising money from your average Joe - and paying it to PPF executives, employees, and professional fundraisers. Before donating to any organization, check out its rating by the Charity Navigator (www.charitynavigator.org). PPF gets the lowest possible rating. Google "police protective fund scam" for info.

yeah this place called me the other day, I politely declined and now every day since I get a robo call from 317-971-2672 that ALSO comes up as "IN ST FOP" however the instant I pick up it disconnects and when I call back I get a recording saying "donor support has an extended abscence greeting in place and will not accept new messages good bye"

I just received a phone call from the Police Protective Fund of Indiana. The guy told me the name of his organization and asked if I could make a donation. I said “No way!” He asked “Why not?” I said “I don't give money to scammers”. He just laughed and said “Oh man, you busted me. Okay, I'm outa here.”

they stated they were calling to ask for money for fallen officers.  I told them my brother was the police chief and they ***g up on me.

It's the Indiana State Police - calling for fundraising - for families of officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty

I got a call from this person asked for my moms name and refused to identfy  his self

It was a scam. They don't do fundraising by telephone.

thanks, i am reporting it to the Atty Gen office

can you find out who this number belongs to?

Keep getting this number on my cell phone.